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New air filter on 3.1L V6

Post questions and answers about various Intake Systems, Ram Air, Superchargers, Turbo, exhaust systems, headers...

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I recently replaced, as I usually do, the stock paper air filter with a cotton air filter (I went with K&N because it was $30 and had the lifetime warranty), and I noticed the stock setup.

Basically, you've got a round cylinder, maybe 4 or 5 inches (around 10-13cm) in diameter, and about as tall as from your wrist to the tip of your middle finger. Anyway, it's a sealed cylinder on the inside, and the air enters and (I guess) circulates around the cylinder, the inside leads straight to the intake manifold. But the thing about it is, if you're looking at the engine, it sits on the left side closest to the front. Where the air actually enters is from a horn-shaped piece of metal a few inches long - the air actually enters at or near a 90-degree angle, so it doesn't even enter from the front, but from the side. What would be the best way to get better airflow to the intake?

With my blazer, it had an "airbox" on the right front side of the engine bay (again, facing it), and I replaced the airbox with a cone-style open filter. It actually got me somewhere around 2mpg better, because of the less-restrictive airbox. I want to keep this stock, since I hit my fair share of puddles and sucked water into the engine with the blazer's setup. So is there a way to either attach or maybe rotate the air filter housing as to get better airflow?
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1988 Camaro RS (T-tops, 5.0L V8, 5-speed)
1996 Nissan Altima (2.4L, 5-speed, 33+ MPG)
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This is a Camaro correct? The best intakes for these cars is just a dual snorkel intake from the earlier F-bodies. It is a stock true CAI. You should be able to pick one up at a JY pretty cheap. The air is drawn from in front of the radiator.
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good luck finding one! lol! and the word cheap coincides directly with lucky.
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Sandman wrote:
This is a Camaro correct? The best intakes for these cars is just a dual snorkel intake from the earlier F-bodies. It is a stock true CAI. You should be able to pick one up at a JY pretty cheap. The air is drawn from in front of the radiator.


That is what I used on mine.
I found mine on ebay for around $50


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nice! yep that is better! no mods to smog stuff to get it to fit.
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The only engines I've ever owned besides this are 4.3L, so if it helps to remember, I'm the blazer guy, heh. Until I build a 4.3L camaro, the only V6 I'll be talking about is my 3.1L camaro. But yes, I'll specify in the future.

I'm guessing that intake system would be off the 2.8L? My question is, where's the air filter? It would be quite nice if I didn't just waste $30, heh.
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1988 Camaro RS (T-tops, 5.0L V8, 5-speed)
1996 Nissan Altima (2.4L, 5-speed, 33+ MPG)
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There is an airbox underneath the split part that holds the air filters. Yes they come off the 2.8s and V8s too IIRC.
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Here's what I found...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... %26fvi%3D1

What else would I need to make this work?
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1988 Camaro RS (T-tops, 5.0L V8, 5-speed)
1996 Nissan Altima (2.4L, 5-speed, 33+ MPG)
1987 Jeep Wrangler (4.0L, 5-speed, fully waterproofed interior, 4" lift, 33x12.5R15 Pro Comps)
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You would need the actual airbox that holds the filters.that piece attaches to the bottom airbox. You would also need a tube to connect to the TB. i would check out a JY as there are plenty of 3rd gens in JYs. I'll see if I can scrounge up a pic.
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that's only the top though you need the bottom too. it replaces the one you have now that is solid. honesty if you want it on the cheap i've seen people route metal tubing to right below the battery and use a cone air filter on the end. It works fine and it's pretty cold air.
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That's kind of what I was thinking, as that's the setup in my Blazer (I need to get a pic). It basically goes the exact same way, and instead of pointing downward, there's just a cone filter straight off the end. It works great. I was thinking that the setup that clw had would get better airflow.
1991 Camaro RS (Coupe, 3.1L V6, 700R4 auto)
1988 Camaro RS (T-tops, 5.0L V8, 5-speed)
1996 Nissan Altima (2.4L, 5-speed, 33+ MPG)
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if your lookin to get the snorkal intake i have the one off my iroc that i cant use and its just setting around,ill sell it all to you for 50 bucks
my 85 IROC-Z-350 4 bolt main,700r tranny,B&M shift kit,edelbrock performer intake,holley carb,headman headers,magnaflow exhaust,charcoal/black interior,new paint and more this year

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that's a good price really. they went up in price again on Ebay. all parts do in the winter spring time. projects demand them it seems.
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I saw someone new selling some parts on thirdgen, they had a red IROC with a black primer hood. he was selling mufflers and stuff. Do you anyone like that? Also maybe a TPI air box? you might want to buy from him instead he seems nicer. he also lives in WV though. weird.
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yea that would be me my cars in parkersburg wv which is like a few miles away from me in marietta
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yes! now i get to use all my great WV jokes on someone!
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i am having a problem with this type of intake i want to get one but i dont know how to put it on once i get it. so i pretty much take out my old one an connect this one and plug the air flow sensor into the new one, is there a filter at all?
 

 
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Yeah, two filters, right at the ends of the fork.

Here's the one I bought:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... otohosting

Ended up being $50 with the S&H, shipping insurance, etc. If it doesn't fit then I'll make it.
1991 Camaro RS (Coupe, 3.1L V6, 700R4 auto)
1988 Camaro RS (T-tops, 5.0L V8, 5-speed)
1996 Nissan Altima (2.4L, 5-speed, 33+ MPG)
1987 Jeep Wrangler (4.0L, 5-speed, fully waterproofed interior, 4" lift, 33x12.5R15 Pro Comps)
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ok then do i just take the air sensor out of the box and plug it into the fork intake? does the wire of the sensor need to be longer or extended?
 

 
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To be honest with you I have no idea, as I have never personally seen one or even looked at it. I gotta figure that out once I get it, which should be when I get home in 5 days.
1991 Camaro RS (Coupe, 3.1L V6, 700R4 auto)
1988 Camaro RS (T-tops, 5.0L V8, 5-speed)
1996 Nissan Altima (2.4L, 5-speed, 33+ MPG)
1987 Jeep Wrangler (4.0L, 5-speed, fully waterproofed interior, 4" lift, 33x12.5R15 Pro Comps)
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